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iRk-Tim
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Neo Sylphid 2.0
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1 Orange iRk-Tim Protoss 47 35 26% 12 5,835 2:03:39 Human Defeat 0 0
1 Brown stromkarlen Zerg 36 32 11% 8 4,356 2:02:40 Human Defeat 1 1
2 Red Ara Tribe Protoss 0 0 0% 11 0 00:00 Rescue Passive Victory 255 3
2 Teal Fenris Brood Zerg 0 0 0% 3 0 00:00 Rescue Passive Victory 255 4
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Mineral field 1,500x93
Mineral field 1,000x16
Total minerals 155,500
Vespene geyser 5,000x9
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Total vespene gas 49,500
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Time iRk-Tim stromkarlen Ara Tribe Fenris Brood
00:02Drone
00:53Probe
00:54Probe x2
01:22Spawning Pool
01:38Probe
02:06Hatchery
02:13Probe
02:26Hydralisk Den
02:28Probe
02:39Pylon
02:49Hatchery
02:52Hatchery
02:55Hatchery
03:04Muscular Augments (Hydralisk Speed)
03:08Hydralisk
03:16Forge
03:18Gateway
03:29Hatchery
03:36Nexus
03:39Hydralisk
03:43Drone
03:44Overlord
04:01Hatchery
04:04Drone
04:12Hydralisk
04:14Photon Cannon
04:16Photon Cannon
04:19Zergling
04:20Zergling
04:40Hydralisk
04:45Overlord
04:46Overlord
04:51Overlord
04:55Pylon
04:55Hatchery
05:18Drone
05:20Drone
05:23Spawning Pool
05:25Spawning Pool
05:42Hydralisk x2
05:43Hydralisk
05:44Zergling
05:45Hatchery
05:45Hydralisk
05:46Hydralisk
05:46Hatchery
06:02Burrowing
06:22Hydralisk Den
06:27Drone x2
06:29Overlord
06:44Overlord
06:46Overlord
07:10Hydralisk
07:11Hydralisk
07:12Hydralisk
07:41Zealot
07:42Zealot x2
07:43Forge
07:44Gateway
08:01Hydralisk
08:02Hydralisk
08:03Zergling
08:04Hydralisk x2
08:06Overlord
08:37Photon Cannon x2
08:40Photon Cannon
08:41Photon Cannon
10:44Photon Cannon
10:46Photon Cannon
10:51Hydralisk
10:51Photon Cannon
11:11Photon Cannon
11:12Photon Cannon
11:17Zealot x2
12:01Photon Cannon
12:12Zealot
12:16Pylon
12:18Pylon
13:43Photon Cannon
13:44Photon Cannon
13:52Photon Cannon
14:12Photon Cannon
14:13Photon Cannon
14:17Photon Cannon
15:21Zealot x2
15:23Gateway x2
15:24Gateway
15:26Gateway
15:42Pylon
16:01Zealot
16:06Zealot x2
16:09Zealot
16:28Zealot
16:35Photon Cannon x2
16:38Hydralisk
16:40Photon Cannon
17:16Zealot
17:18Zealot x2
17:19Zealot x2
17:36Hydralisk
17:50Probe x3
17:53Probe x2
17:54Probe x2
18:23Zealot x3
18:24Pylon
18:25Pylon x2
18:26Pylon
18:28Pylon
18:29Zergling
18:31Zergling
18:32Zergling
18:33Pylon
18:34Zealot x3
19:00Photon Cannon
19:02Photon Cannon
19:03Photon Cannon
19:27Zealot
19:34Photon Cannon
19:38Photon Cannon
19:42Photon Cannon
19:48Photon Cannon
19:49Zealot
19:51Photon Cannon
19:55Probe x2
21:15Photon Cannon
21:16Photon Cannon
21:17Hydralisk
21:18Hydralisk
21:28Photon Cannon
21:40Zealot
21:46Photon Cannon
21:48Photon Cannon
21:55Photon Cannon
23:15Photon Cannon
23:24Zergling
23:25Hydralisk
23:26Hydralisk
23:33Photon Cannon
23:34Photon Cannon
23:35Hydralisk
23:44Muscular Augments (Hydralisk Speed)
23:45Hydralisk
23:46Hydralisk x2
23:47Hydralisk
24:00Photon Cannon
24:02Photon Cannon
24:23Hydralisk
25:09Hydralisk
25:42Photon Cannon
25:53Zealot
25:56Photon Cannon
26:00Photon Cannon
28:17Zealot x6
28:18Zealot x6
28:19Zealot x5
33:45Photon Cannon
33:46Photon Cannon
33:47Photon Cannon
35:21Hydralisk
35:22Hydralisk x2
37:15Photon Cannon
37:16Photon Cannon
37:17Photon Cannon
39:07Gateway
39:10Gateway
40:17Photon Cannon
40:18Photon Cannon
40:19Photon Cannon
40:21Photon Cannon
41:53Pylon
42:16Forge
42:18Gateway
42:20Photon Cannon x2
42:22Photon Cannon
42:25Photon Cannon
43:13Pylon
43:15Forge
43:36Gateway
43:38Photon Cannon
43:40Photon Cannon
43:41Photon Cannon
45:35Photon Cannon
45:36Photon Cannon
48:47Photon Cannon
48:48Photon Cannon
48:49Photon Cannon
48:50Photon Cannon
48:51Photon Cannon
54:56Protoss Ground Weapons
54:58Protoss Ground Armor
54:59Protoss Ground Armor
55:03Protoss Ground Armor
1:03:28Pylon
1:03:33Gateway
1:03:50Forge
1:05:57Photon Cannon
1:08:22Photon Cannon
1:08:23Photon Cannon
1:08:24Photon Cannon
1:38:03Photon Cannon
1:38:04Photon Cannon x2
1:39:37Photon Cannon
1:39:38Photon Cannon
1:39:39Photon Cannon
1:39:49Photon Cannon
1:42:26Hydralisk
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95 00:03 iRk-Tim 💬 neat
285 00:11 iRk-Tim 💬 should just be a ton of money
317 00:13 iRk-Tim 💬 and also
359 00:15 stromkarlen 💬 ya
422 00:17 stromkarlen 💬 it is
602 00:25 iRk-Tim 💬 out on the map at 2 of the third base locations
705 00:29 iRk-Tim 💬 are probes and drones
849 00:35 iRk-Tim 💬 labeled as "rescuable"
1076 00:45 stromkarlen 💬 you are a god
1233 00:51 iRk-Tim 💬 for use to demonstrate things from the other perspective
2080 01:27 iRk-Tim 💬 nice
2134 01:29 iRk-Tim 💬 that worked
2191 01:32 iRk-Tim 💬 i have drone now
2281 01:35 stromkarlen 💬 god
2375 01:39 stromkarlen 💬 kk
2621 01:50 stromkarlen 💬 its like in the campaign
2665 01:51 stromkarlen 💬 right
2756 01:55 iRk-Tim 💬 theres probes at the base where your overlord is
2779 01:56 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah
2846 01:59 iRk-Tim 💬 just like that lol
2847 01:59 stromkarlen 💬 ive never played the campaign
3123 02:11 stromkarlen 💬 do i need a probe?
3206 02:14 iRk-Tim 💬 nah
3242 02:16 iRk-Tim 💬 only later
3353 02:20 stromkarlen 💬 :0
3371 02:21 iRk-Tim 💬 if i want to demonstrate something
3468 02:25 iRk-Tim 💬 from z perspective
3576 02:30 stromkarlen 💬 ah
3634 02:32 stromkarlen 💬 makes sense
4181 02:55 iRk-Tim 💬 so hydra bust
4310 03:01 stromkarlen 💬 hydra spd
4344 03:02 stromkarlen 💬 ya
4453 03:07 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah get speed
4507 03:09 iRk-Tim 💬 but range idk
4575 03:12 stromkarlen 💬 nah
4621 03:14 iRk-Tim 💬 maybe hold off on that
4710 03:17 stromkarlen 💬 wouldnt be done
4901 03:25 iRk-Tim 💬 usually not
5039 03:31 iRk-Tim 💬 but it would finish mid-bust
6136 04:17 stromkarlen 💬 get lings 2 right
6261 04:22 iRk-Tim 💬 sure
6261 04:22 stromkarlen 💬 like 4?
6510 04:33 stromkarlen 💬 can never think of how many to make
6624 04:38 stromkarlen 💬 no speed tho right
6788 04:45 iRk-Tim 💬 nope
7315 05:07 stromkarlen 💬 no rlent today
7365 05:09 stromkarlen 💬 :c
7389 05:10 iRk-Tim 💬 we can practice vs a variety of walls
7429 05:12 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah
7447 05:12 iRk-Tim 💬 sad
7563 05:17 stromkarlen 💬 perfect
7735 05:24 stromkarlen 💬 yeah im bad at the actual execution
8635 06:02 stromkarlen 💬 had to proxy reaver father instead?
8775 06:08 stromkarlen 💬 ;)
8798 06:09 iRk-Tim 💬 :)
8917 06:14 iRk-Tim 💬 that did not make him happy
8996 06:17 stromkarlen 💬 poor guy
9263 06:29 stromkarlen 💬 youre so mean tim
9325 06:31 stromkarlen 💬 :P
9442 06:36 iRk-Tim 💬 i had to play serious
9488 06:38 iRk-Tim 💬 for practice
9507 06:39 iRk-Tim 💬 lol
9644 06:45 stromkarlen 💬 wild
9938 06:57 stromkarlen 💬 wait they ruined your build
10065 07:02 stromkarlen 💬 ;)
10462 07:19 stromkarlen 💬 ok
10486 07:20 stromkarlen 💬 so
10554 07:23 stromkarlen 💬 how many
10735 07:30 stromkarlen 💬 you need zealots right
10974 07:40 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah
11512 08:03 iRk-Tim 💬 so this is gonna be a bit harder to accurately imitate
11628 08:08 iRk-Tim 💬 since it varies a lot
11853 08:17 iRk-Tim 💬 how many cannons i have done vs building etc
12439 08:42 stromkarlen 💬 yeah i think doing any example will help though tbh
12541 08:46 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah
12784 08:56 iRk-Tim 💬 so im gonna get 3 zeal
12965 09:04 iRk-Tim 💬 then start 3 cannons
13281 09:17 iRk-Tim 💬 then you attack with like 7 hydra or something
13478 09:26 iRk-Tim 💬 you can grab a couple more at a time
13526 09:28 iRk-Tim 💬 throughout
13674 09:34 iRk-Tim 💬 or
13712 09:35 iRk-Tim 💬 actually
13779 09:38 iRk-Tim 💬 for realism
14007 09:48 iRk-Tim 💬 rally from your hatches and only use those
14112 09:52 iRk-Tim 💬 as reinforcement
14855 10:23 stromkarlen 💬 kk
15109 10:34 stromkarlen 💬 ill be making like 6
15280 10:41 iRk-Tim 💬 kk
15336 10:44 stromkarlen 💬 doubt id have 9 making
16197 11:20 iRk-Tim 💬 kk
16482 11:32 iRk-Tim 💬 spare me from rebuilding pls
16520 11:33 iRk-Tim 💬 thx
16618 11:37 stromkarlen 💬 :0
16651 11:39 stromkarlen 💬 ;)
16784 11:44 iRk-Tim 💬 thats like a super ideal scenario
16909 11:50 iRk-Tim 💬 a shitty cannon placement
16985 11:53 iRk-Tim 💬 late extra cannons
17488 12:14 stromkarlen 💬 still was good cause I dont think i normally micro like that lmao
17817 12:28 iRk-Tim 💬 right, so theres the execution part
17942 12:33 iRk-Tim 💬 which you can work on the whole time
17973 12:34 iRk-Tim 💬 but also
18109 12:40 iRk-Tim 💬 theres a lot of nuance to placement
18317 12:49 iRk-Tim 💬 that can tell you when you can bust and when you cant
18687 13:04 iRk-Tim 💬 and you can learn how to exploit bad placement
18807 13:09 iRk-Tim 💬 or bad unit movement
19266 13:29 stromkarlen 💬 yes
19323 13:31 stromkarlen 💬 makes sense
19430 13:36 stromkarlen 💬 all stuff I dont know
19444 13:36 iRk-Tim 💬 k ready to go again?
19763 13:50 iRk-Tim 💬 gogo
19890 13:55 stromkarlen 💬 getting lings sorry
21282 14:53 iRk-Tim 💬 see how much harder that is when the cannon is just one space back?
21344 14:56 iRk-Tim 💬 from forge/
21348 14:56 stromkarlen 💬 YES
21441 15:00 iRk-Tim 💬 insane right?
21503 15:03 stromkarlen 💬 i did it wrong
21584 15:06 stromkarlen 💬 let me do it again
22228 15:33 iRk-Tim 💬 gonna start pre-building my zeals
22247 15:34 iRk-Tim 💬 lol
22299 15:36 iRk-Tim 💬 sry
22334 15:38 stromkarlen 💬 lol
22393 15:40 stromkarlen 💬 its ok
22449 15:42 stromkarlen 💬 i mean
22491 15:44 stromkarlen 💬 no tim
22538 15:46 stromkarlen 💬 :VVVV
22679 15:52 stromkarlen 💬 doesnt really work with you
22739 15:55 stromkarlen 💬 tbh
22786 15:57 stromkarlen 💬 youre nice
22800 15:57 iRk-Tim 💬 :V
22806 15:57 stromkarlen 💬 lol
23198 16:14 stromkarlen 💬 ya everyone started :V ing me now
23462 16:25 iRk-Tim 💬 ^^
23629 16:32 iRk-Tim 💬 rdy?
23739 16:37 stromkarlen 💬 gogo
24944 17:27 stromkarlen 💬 hmm
25768 18:02 iRk-Tim 💬 get the rallies too
25917 18:08 iRk-Tim 💬 you havent done that
26005 18:12 stromkarlen 💬 i did it wrong
26168 18:19 stromkarlen 💬 i will next time
26785 18:44 iRk-Tim 💬 readay?
26880 18:48 stromkarlen 💬 2 sec
28420 19:53 stromkarlen 💬 k I didnt get rallies
28503 19:57 iRk-Tim 💬 true
28532 19:58 stromkarlen 💬 im a lia
28562 19:59 stromkarlen 💬 r
28599 20:01 iRk-Tim 💬 :D
28765 20:08 stromkarlen 💬 huh
28863 20:12 stromkarlen 💬 :D vs :)
29155 20:24 iRk-Tim 💬 honestly arbitrary
29269 20:29 stromkarlen 💬 lol
29346 20:32 stromkarlen 💬 im jk
29460 20:37 iRk-Tim 💬 hmmmmm
29684 20:46 stromkarlen 💬 90% of what i say makes no sense
29725 20:48 stromkarlen 💬 dw
29809 20:51 stromkarlen 💬 about it
29870 20:54 stromkarlen 💬 ;)
30257 21:10 iRk-Tim 💬 rdy
30292 21:12 iRk-Tim 💬 ?
30341 21:14 stromkarlen 💬 gogo
31862 22:18 iRk-Tim 💬 the rallies were so late
31900 22:19 iRk-Tim 💬 i thought
32017 22:24 iRk-Tim 💬 we were done with this iteration
32050 22:26 iRk-Tim 💬 lol
32151 22:30 iRk-Tim 💬 and cancelled cannon
32288 22:36 stromkarlen 💬 I made them right before i attacked
32344 22:38 stromkarlen 💬 oh lol
32377 22:39 stromkarlen 💬 soz
32572 22:48 iRk-Tim 💬 i guess alright well
32714 22:53 iRk-Tim 💬 takes a while
32757 22:55 iRk-Tim 💬 to make
32812 22:58 iRk-Tim 💬 and get there
32992 23:05 stromkarlen 💬 theyd probably already be making
33036 23:07 stromkarlen 💬 you right
33091 23:09 stromkarlen 💬 lmao
34669 24:16 iRk-Tim 💬 we have to sync this up somehow
34827 24:22 iRk-Tim 💬 tell me when you start making hydra
34973 24:28 iRk-Tim 💬 and ill make cannons then
35147 24:36 stromkarlen 💬 it should just be the travel difference shouldnt it
35578 24:54 stromkarlen 💬 since by the time the ones Im using get to your nat
35691 24:59 stromkarlen 💬 more should have hatched
35752 25:01 stromkarlen 💬 ?
35812 25:04 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah
35899 25:07 iRk-Tim 💬 i guess so
36141 25:17 iRk-Tim 💬 so when they hatch
36166 25:18 iRk-Tim 💬 go in
36172 25:19 stromkarlen 💬 idk man
36408 25:29 stromkarlen 💬 ill just send them manually
36471 25:31 stromkarlen 💬 how about that
36499 25:32 stromkarlen 💬 ;)
36534 25:34 iRk-Tim 💬 reasonable
36749 25:43 stromkarlen 💬 lol
37198 26:02 stromkarlen 💬 wait we going
37236 26:03 iRk-Tim 💬 gogo
38301 26:48 iRk-Tim 💬 okay
38363 26:51 iRk-Tim 💬 so thats with
38452 26:54 iRk-Tim 💬 good placement for me
38706 27:05 stromkarlen 💬 hydras cant shoot over
38767 27:08 stromkarlen 💬 frustrating
38788 27:09 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah
38883 27:13 iRk-Tim 💬 but
39080 27:21 iRk-Tim 💬 youll probabaly see a lot more of the bad placement
39307 27:30 iRk-Tim 💬 where protoss puts the cannons right up next to forge
39444 27:36 iRk-Tim 💬 like the 4th one i built
40043 28:01 iRk-Tim 💬 if you scout
40095 28:03 iRk-Tim 💬 and see this
40192 28:08 iRk-Tim 💬 this is easy
40253 28:10 iRk-Tim 💬 to break
40741 28:31 stromkarlen 💬 yes
40829 28:34 stromkarlen 💬 i see
41184 28:49 stromkarlen 💬 hmm
41455 29:01 stromkarlen 💬 so execution tips though?
41774 29:14 stromkarlen 💬 gotta turn up the heat in my room im freezing lol
41889 29:19 iRk-Tim 💬 few things to keep in mind
41928 29:20 iRk-Tim 💬 kk
41995 29:23 iRk-Tim 💬 so
42322 29:37 iRk-Tim 💬 first look at the cannon placement
42675 29:52 iRk-Tim 💬 if the first cannon is far up like this
42912 30:02 iRk-Tim 💬 you know its already very eligible for a bust
43321 30:19 iRk-Tim 💬 another consideration is
43432 30:24 iRk-Tim 💬 did toss scout your den?
43611 30:31 iRk-Tim 💬 meaning
43864 30:42 iRk-Tim 💬 will he have more cannons already building
44657 31:15 iRk-Tim 💬 you want to have an overlord somewhere nearby
44837 31:23 iRk-Tim 💬 so you can see when they start more cannons
44886 31:25 iRk-Tim 💬 and how many
45254 31:40 iRk-Tim 💬 and also so that if templar tech finishes and they rush out a DT it doesnt end
45307 31:42 iRk-Tim 💬 your push
45453 31:49 stromkarlen 💬 yes
45556 31:53 stromkarlen 💬 i knew that
46068 32:14 iRk-Tim 💬 another thing is the zealot movement
46823 32:46 iRk-Tim 💬 so
47044 32:55 iRk-Tim 💬 theres a lot of variables to consider
47271 33:05 iRk-Tim 💬 sometimes you end up deciding you cant actually break in
47334 33:08 iRk-Tim 💬 either at all
47429 33:12 iRk-Tim 💬 or just not yet
47823 33:28 stromkarlen 💬 yes
47946 33:33 iRk-Tim 💬 so say toss has 4 cannons done by the time your first wave gets there
48156 33:42 iRk-Tim 💬 and lets say they are at the front of the wall
48329 33:49 iRk-Tim 💬 like so
48467 33:55 iRk-Tim 💬 then in this case
48502 33:57 stromkarlen 💬 yes
48631 34:02 iRk-Tim 💬 you cant really do much right now
48765 34:08 iRk-Tim 💬 (pretending those are done)
48870 34:12 stromkarlen 💬 yes
48897 34:13 stromkarlen 💬 lmao
48946 34:15 iRk-Tim 💬 and without range
49063 34:20 iRk-Tim 💬 if the cannons are up this far
49155 34:24 iRk-Tim 💬 you cant hit the wall
49447 34:36 iRk-Tim 💬 so
49490 34:38 stromkarlen 💬 that was cute
49512 34:39 stromkarlen 💬 haha
49596 34:43 iRk-Tim 💬 tyty
49624 34:44 iRk-Tim 💬 so
49708 34:47 iRk-Tim 💬 you have to either
49935 34:57 iRk-Tim 💬 abandon the goal of breaking in
49960 34:58 iRk-Tim 💬 or
50070 35:02 iRk-Tim 💬 hide the extra hydras
50447 35:18 iRk-Tim 💬 and try and bait them into thinking theyre safe
51011 35:42 iRk-Tim 💬 so for example
51165 35:48 iRk-Tim 💬 4 cannons
51313 35:55 iRk-Tim 💬 will destroy 6 hydra ez
51582 36:06 stromkarlen 💬 yes
51603 36:07 iRk-Tim 💬 but if you wait for another 9 or 10
51738 36:12 iRk-Tim 💬 and they stay on 4 cannon
51929 36:21 iRk-Tim 💬 then with a placement like this
52061 36:26 iRk-Tim 💬 its an easy bust
52170 36:31 iRk-Tim 💬 because first of all
52325 36:37 iRk-Tim 💬 your range might be done by that time
52360 36:39 iRk-Tim 💬 and second
52471 36:43 iRk-Tim 💬 the cannons are far up
52527 36:46 iRk-Tim 💬 ez to hit
52987 37:05 stromkarlen 💬 i see
53081 37:09 stromkarlen 💬 nice demo
53097 37:10 iRk-Tim 💬 tons of area means you can kill them in a second or 2
53485 37:26 iRk-Tim 💬 now if theyre back even ONE space
53666 37:33 iRk-Tim 💬 its much harder to do it this way
53772 37:38 iRk-Tim 💬 but
53951 37:45 iRk-Tim 💬 its not entirely a fix for toss
54073 37:51 iRk-Tim 💬 it leaves the wall open
54413 38:05 stromkarlen 💬 ahhhh
54474 38:07 stromkarlen 💬 i see
54486 38:08 iRk-Tim 💬 now you can easily hit the wall
54646 38:15 iRk-Tim 💬 without range you can hit gate
55133 38:35 iRk-Tim 💬 so then you just sit outside with the first wave
55217 38:39 iRk-Tim 💬 hit the gate down
55391 38:46 iRk-Tim 💬 then once it dies
55512 38:51 iRk-Tim 💬 you can flood in with everything
55522 38:51 stromkarlen 💬 bring in everything
55585 38:54 stromkarlen 💬 damn
56409 39:29 iRk-Tim 💬 this varies a bit in different positions btw
56801 39:45 iRk-Tim 💬 mostly due to the fact that gate and forge
56951 39:51 iRk-Tim 💬 are 4x3 and 3x2
57126 39:59 iRk-Tim 💬 so vertical and horizontal walls
57268 40:05 iRk-Tim 💬 have to be treated differently
57613 40:19 stromkarlen 💬 yes Ive heard that
57869 40:30 iRk-Tim 💬 then theres the weird one gap walls
57995 40:35 iRk-Tim 💬 like i have on the bottom here
58485 40:56 stromkarlen 💬 wheres the gap?
58650 41:03 iRk-Tim 💬 pylon-forge
58760 41:07 stromkarlen 💬 thought so
58813 41:10 iRk-Tim 💬 and on this map the left side
58846 41:11 stromkarlen 💬 hmm
58913 41:14 iRk-Tim 💬 because stupid rocks
59042 41:19 stromkarlen 💬 oh yeah
59047 41:19 iRk-Tim 💬 thats unavoidable
59171 41:25 iRk-Tim 💬 but on like FS for example
59212 41:26 stromkarlen 💬 i see
59296 41:30 iRk-Tim 💬 top right and bottom left
59397 41:34 iRk-Tim 💬 theres setups like this
59669 41:46 stromkarlen 💬 i remember you saying that before ^^
59742 41:49 stromkarlen 💬 see, i listen
60114 42:04 iRk-Tim 💬 the standard vertical wall that im gonna build over here
60253 42:10 iRk-Tim 💬 is the most common one youll see
60289 42:12 iRk-Tim 💬 overall
60538 42:22 stromkarlen 💬 alright
60812 42:34 iRk-Tim 💬 something like this
61000 42:42 iRk-Tim 💬 theres a couple variants tho
61170 42:49 stromkarlen 💬 brb for 2 seconds bathroom, go ahead and write ill read after
63177 44:13 iRk-Tim 💬 the one i built behind it is the other common variant of the vertical wall
63566 44:29 iRk-Tim 💬 the only difference here is that the forge and gate and one space up
63654 44:33 iRk-Tim 💬 relative to pylon
63981 44:47 iRk-Tim 💬 this makes it easier to fit cannons in a tight space
64241 44:58 iRk-Tim 💬 like FS bottom right for example
64403 45:04 iRk-Tim 💬 not much room between cannons and nex
65079 45:33 iRk-Tim 💬 i usually opt for the front orientation
65407 45:47 iRk-Tim 💬 because it allows me to place cannons like this
66034 46:13 iRk-Tim 💬 this very forward cannon thats against the pylon stops you from sniping
66067 46:14 iRk-Tim 💬 the forge
66408 46:29 iRk-Tim 💬 even once you have range you can only hit it from a certain angle
66989 46:53 stromkarlen 💬 back
67032 46:55 iRk-Tim 💬 roughly where the probe is
67075 46:57 stromkarlen 💬 that makes sense
67415 47:11 stromkarlen 💬 so it dies less fast
67525 47:16 stromkarlen 💬 maybe time to get plus one?
67542 47:16 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah
67704 47:23 iRk-Tim 💬 lets me squeeze out +1
67723 47:24 iRk-Tim 💬 or
67838 47:29 iRk-Tim 💬 depending on my followup
68128 47:41 iRk-Tim 💬 if im going straight into legs and 4+ gates
68246 47:46 iRk-Tim 💬 i can maybe even save it
68533 47:58 stromkarlen 💬 i see
68776 48:08 iRk-Tim 💬 so
68980 48:17 iRk-Tim 💬 since these buildings are both wider
69016 48:18 iRk-Tim 💬 than tall
69162 48:24 iRk-Tim 💬 this wall doesnt suck
69350 48:32 iRk-Tim 💬 even tho the cannons are flush with the back side
69454 48:37 stromkarlen 💬 lmao
69871 48:54 iRk-Tim 💬 unlike this garbage
69941 48:57 iRk-Tim 💬 at the top base
70091 49:03 stromkarlen 💬 garbage
70107 49:04 iRk-Tim 💬 this is like
70140 49:05 stromkarlen 💬 :P
70433 49:18 iRk-Tim 💬 this cannon placement
70467 49:19 iRk-Tim 💬 up here
70661 49:27 iRk-Tim 💬 is one of THE most common mistakes
70768 49:32 iRk-Tim 💬 that protoss players make
70884 49:37 iRk-Tim 💬 up to a very high MMR
71180 49:49 iRk-Tim 💬 like even B and A rank protoss
71224 49:51 stromkarlen 💬 yeah makes sense
71293 49:54 iRk-Tim 💬 i still see them do this
71374 49:57 iRk-Tim 💬 armada for instance
71429 50:00 iRk-Tim 💬 does this
71709 50:11 iRk-Tim 💬 babo does this
71716 50:12 stromkarlen 💬 but not you
71799 50:15 stromkarlen 💬 architect
71891 50:19 stromkarlen 💬 so
71896 50:19 iRk-Tim 💬 NOT ANYMORE! i used to
71976 50:22 stromkarlen 💬 LOL
72117 50:28 stromkarlen 💬 who taught you?>
72448 50:42 iRk-Tim 💬 getting smashed by hydras a few dozen times
72489 50:44 iRk-Tim 💬 lol
72719 50:54 stromkarlen 💬 damn
72962 51:04 iRk-Tim 💬 eventually the realization came to me
73146 51:12 iRk-Tim 💬 that range is something i should think about
73169 51:13 stromkarlen 💬 and you dont pass it on to other toss? ;)
73256 51:16 iRk-Tim 💬 well
73278 51:17 iRk-Tim 💬 i do
73358 51:21 iRk-Tim 💬 when they ask about it
73549 51:29 stromkarlen 💬 lololol
73824 51:40 iRk-Tim 💬 not everyone changes it when i tell them tho....
73885 51:43 stromkarlen 💬 im laughing
73955 51:46 iRk-Tim 💬 (armada)
73981 51:47 stromkarlen 💬 thanks for sharing with me
74045 51:49 stromkarlen 💬 haha
74175 51:55 iRk-Tim 💬 :)
74243 51:58 stromkarlen 💬 poor armada
74537 52:10 iRk-Tim 💬 walls are like
74659 52:15 iRk-Tim 💬 such an ingrained thing
74688 52:16 iRk-Tim 💬 for pvz
74863 52:24 iRk-Tim 💬 that it can be hard to change walling habits
75070 52:32 iRk-Tim 💬 even if you know you want to do it differently
75309 52:42 iRk-Tim 💬 you can easily go into game and just do it the old way
75343 52:44 iRk-Tim 💬 every time
75366 52:45 iRk-Tim 💬 lol
75604 52:55 iRk-Tim 💬 since you have to do it every single game
75683 52:58 stromkarlen 💬 havent played enough bw to relate but can
75764 53:02 iRk-Tim 💬 it becomes subconscious
75805 53:03 stromkarlen 💬 see in violin
75841 53:05 stromkarlen 💬 yeaj
75913 53:08 stromkarlen 💬 yeah
76253 53:22 stromkarlen 💬 imagine sim city vs zealots could get similar
76451 53:30 stromkarlen 💬 like i invented my own
76668 53:40 stromkarlen 💬 so like
77085 53:57 stromkarlen 💬 i can see it being hard to change
77235 54:03 iRk-Tim 💬 ye
77257 54:04 stromkarlen 💬 especially if youre building things quickly
77323 54:07 iRk-Tim 💬 ^
77518 54:15 iRk-Tim 💬 gotta pay so much attention
77609 54:19 iRk-Tim 💬 to the scouting probe
77647 54:21 iRk-Tim 💬 early game
77817 54:28 iRk-Tim 💬 that its hard to think much about anything else tbh
78081 54:39 stromkarlen 💬 bisu probe
78150 54:42 iRk-Tim 💬 if that probe dies it makes the game 2x harder
78608 55:01 stromkarlen 💬 yeah
78802 55:09 stromkarlen 💬 im not good at exploiting that yet
79026 55:19 iRk-Tim 💬 hydra bust is one way
79260 55:28 stromkarlen 💬 yes
79308 55:30 iRk-Tim 💬 ling bust too
79448 55:36 stromkarlen 💬 its starting to make more sense to me
79516 55:39 stromkarlen 💬 ok yes
79665 55:45 iRk-Tim 💬 we can practice that too
79775 55:50 iRk-Tim 💬 while were in here
79811 55:52 stromkarlen 💬 what is the logic between anti-hydra canon and anti-ling
79875 55:54 stromkarlen 💬 yeah
79935 55:57 iRk-Tim 💬 okay
79990 55:59 stromkarlen 💬 i was gonna ask about this
80057 56:02 iRk-Tim 💬 cannon placement vs lings
80211 56:08 iRk-Tim 💬 doesnt matter as much
80233 56:09 iRk-Tim 💬 tbh
80512 56:21 iRk-Tim 💬 its TECHNICALLY slightly better to be flush against the wall
80528 56:22 iRk-Tim 💬 but
80730 56:30 iRk-Tim 💬 that actually matters very rarely
81067 56:44 iRk-Tim 💬 so best to just place them in the spot that lets you not die to hydras
81075 56:45 stromkarlen 💬 alright
81353 56:56 iRk-Tim 💬 ling busts tho
81454 57:01 iRk-Tim 💬 criteria
81692 57:11 iRk-Tim 💬 ideally they only have 1 cannon
82047 57:25 iRk-Tim 💬 and they have a wall that has at least 3 units worth of space
82486 57:44 iRk-Tim 💬 every wall has 3 unit gaps on this map
82657 57:51 iRk-Tim 💬 because of dumb anti-protoss rocks
82778 57:56 stromkarlen 💬 lol
82922 58:02 iRk-Tim 💬 but for example
83246 58:16 iRk-Tim 💬 you probably dont want to ling bust a toss on FS bot right
83315 58:19 iRk-Tim 💬 left i mean
83393 58:22 stromkarlen 💬 yes
83413 58:23 iRk-Tim 💬 or top right
83499 58:26 stromkarlen 💬 yes
83516 58:27 iRk-Tim 💬 if they do the good wall
83542 58:28 stromkarlen 💬 i see
83763 58:38 iRk-Tim 💬 another thing with ling bust
83909 58:44 iRk-Tim 💬 timing is super important
84036 58:49 iRk-Tim 💬 if they have 3 zeal out alread
84057 58:50 iRk-Tim 💬 y
84280 58:59 iRk-Tim 💬 then its proabably not gonna work out
84475 59:07 iRk-Tim 💬 the ling bust
84612 59:13 iRk-Tim 💬 basically relies on either A
84830 59:22 iRk-Tim 💬 theres nothing blocking at all
84863 59:24 iRk-Tim 💬 or B
84999 59:29 iRk-Tim 💬 the blocking unit is a probe
85078 59:33 iRk-Tim 💬 and you can just kill it
85252 59:40 iRk-Tim 💬 and hopefully its not many probes
85367 59:45 iRk-Tim 💬 or well controlled probes
85714 59:59 stromkarlen 💬 makes sense
85750 1:00:01 iRk-Tim 💬 cuz theres tricks toss can do with the probe movement that make it much harder
86255 1:00:22 iRk-Tim 💬 i have a rep i can show you later where i do that probe movement
86596 1:00:37 stromkarlen 💬 i was gonna say
86704 1:00:41 stromkarlen 💬 bet you know the tricks
86732 1:00:42 stromkarlen 💬 lol
86788 1:00:45 iRk-Tim 💬 ;)
87648 1:01:21 stromkarlen 💬 im so fascinated
87689 1:01:22 stromkarlen 💬 tbh
88038 1:01:37 iRk-Tim 💬 thats great
88245 1:01:46 iRk-Tim 💬 makes teaching you enjoyable
88672 1:02:04 stromkarlen 💬 rrrrrrrrr
88781 1:02:08 stromkarlen 💬 <3
89198 1:02:26 iRk-Tim 💬 lets talk about zealots too btw
89241 1:02:28 stromkarlen 💬 can you show me the fs top right wall?
89329 1:02:31 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah
89414 1:02:35 iRk-Tim 💬 we can do that too
89454 1:02:37 stromkarlen 💬 so i can recognize
89821 1:02:52 iRk-Tim 💬 i can show you that on the bottom right base
90231 1:03:09 stromkarlen 💬 thanks
90811 1:03:34 stromkarlen 💬 i literally
90849 1:03:35 stromkarlen 💬 damn
91462 1:04:01 iRk-Tim 💬 pretend the dumb rocks are a cliff instead
91563 1:04:05 iRk-Tim 💬 so its tight on this side
92065 1:04:26 stromkarlen 💬 kk so its the diagonal this
92107 1:04:28 stromkarlen 💬 thing
92307 1:04:36 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah
92323 1:04:37 stromkarlen 💬 lil triangle
92410 1:04:41 iRk-Tim 💬 forge below gate
92467 1:04:43 iRk-Tim 💬 thats the key
92813 1:04:58 iRk-Tim 💬 forge below gate is impassable
93123 1:05:11 iRk-Tim 💬 only way in
93168 1:05:13 stromkarlen 💬 ahhhhhhhhhhh
93230 1:05:15 iRk-Tim 💬 gate pylon
93336 1:05:20 stromkarlen 💬 through pylong
93415 1:05:23 stromkarlen 💬 and the other was
93532 1:05:28 stromkarlen 💬 pylon forge
93568 1:05:29 stromkarlen 💬 i see
93863 1:05:42 iRk-Tim 💬 vertical
93888 1:05:43 iRk-Tim 💬 yes
93947 1:05:45 iRk-Tim 💬 pylon forge
94695 1:06:17 stromkarlen 💬 dont ling bust that wall
94748 1:06:19 stromkarlen 💬 gotcha
94826 1:06:22 iRk-Tim 💬 ^^
94967 1:06:28 iRk-Tim 💬 youll have a bad time
95212 1:06:38 iRk-Tim 💬 you can have 8 lings and lose to 2 probes and 1 cannon
95387 1:06:46 stromkarlen 💬 yup
95439 1:06:48 stromkarlen 💬 i can see it
96229 1:07:21 iRk-Tim 💬 so lets talk about zealots a bit too
96367 1:07:27 stromkarlen 💬 alright
96408 1:07:29 stromkarlen 💬 talk
96443 1:07:30 stromkarlen 💬 ;)
96620 1:07:38 iRk-Tim 💬 so top right
96800 1:07:45 stromkarlen 💬 ya
96828 1:07:46 iRk-Tim 💬 usually if youre hydra busting
96845 1:07:47 stromkarlen 💬 im with u
97065 1:07:56 iRk-Tim 💬 theyll have something like 3 zeals
97195 1:08:02 iRk-Tim 💬 and usually theyll be in the wall
97254 1:08:04 iRk-Tim 💬 when you get there
97640 1:08:20 iRk-Tim 💬 now if they have cannons against the wall
98103 1:08:40 iRk-Tim 💬 then you cant really do anything
98181 1:08:43 iRk-Tim 💬 about the zeals
98512 1:08:57 iRk-Tim 💬 theyll never be in range without you also getting hit by cannons
98530 1:08:58 iRk-Tim 💬 but
98622 1:09:02 stromkarlen 💬 but the canons are easy to get anyhow
98758 1:09:07 iRk-Tim 💬 right
98939 1:09:15 iRk-Tim 💬 but if the cannons are farther back
99168 1:09:25 iRk-Tim 💬 then sometimes toss will try and come out with the zeals
99351 1:09:32 iRk-Tim 💬 to delay you from killing the wall
99449 1:09:36 iRk-Tim 💬 forge especially
99750 1:09:49 iRk-Tim 💬 so thats why you want to use
99797 1:09:51 iRk-Tim 💬 hold pos
99869 1:09:54 iRk-Tim 💬 on hydras
100043 1:10:01 iRk-Tim 💬 instead of just A clicking the building
100146 1:10:06 stromkarlen 💬 yes
100239 1:10:10 stromkarlen 💬 I actually do that
100258 1:10:10 iRk-Tim 💬 when youre sniping the wall
100301 1:10:12 stromkarlen 💬 shockingly
100326 1:10:13 iRk-Tim 💬 great
100345 1:10:14 iRk-Tim 💬 okay
100816 1:10:34 iRk-Tim 💬 okay thats good
101105 1:10:46 iRk-Tim 💬 now regarding the presence of zeals
101181 1:10:49 iRk-Tim 💬 when youre going in
101217 1:10:51 iRk-Tim 💬 for the bust
101396 1:10:58 iRk-Tim 💬 if they have close cannons liek this
101660 1:11:09 iRk-Tim 💬 you want to try and ignore the zealots
101723 1:11:12 iRk-Tim 💬 often times
101870 1:11:18 iRk-Tim 💬 demo time
102281 1:11:35 iRk-Tim 💬 so
102545 1:11:46 iRk-Tim 💬 youve got your hydras ready to go
102731 1:11:54 iRk-Tim 💬 they still have zeals and wall
102890 1:12:01 iRk-Tim 💬 but you have a good number of hydra
103025 1:12:07 iRk-Tim 💬 and their cannons are in range
103500 1:12:27 iRk-Tim 💬 you might find yourself with units in a position like this
103742 1:12:37 iRk-Tim 💬 so what you dont want to be doing
103885 1:12:43 iRk-Tim 💬 is A move on all the hydras
103916 1:12:44 iRk-Tim 💬 cuz then
104065 1:12:50 iRk-Tim 💬 theyll all shoot the zeals first
104081 1:12:51 stromkarlen 💬 is fighting z in canon range
104473 1:13:07 stromkarlen 💬 i actually wasnt doing that either, i targetted 2 on the canon
104658 1:13:15 stromkarlen 💬 when we were doing
104694 1:13:17 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah true
104930 1:13:27 iRk-Tim 💬 you probably already get this then
105080 1:13:33 stromkarlen 💬 so in this case
105280 1:13:41 stromkarlen 💬 how many hydras is optimal though
105456 1:13:49 stromkarlen 💬 to target vs run around zealot
105697 1:13:59 iRk-Tim 💬 as many as possible should hit cannons
105901 1:14:07 iRk-Tim 💬 reasons being
105971 1:14:10 stromkarlen 💬 makes sense
105993 1:14:11 iRk-Tim 💬 cannons have higher DPS
106035 1:14:13 iRk-Tim 💬 and also
106214 1:14:20 iRk-Tim 💬 hydra does half dmg to zeal
106439 1:14:30 iRk-Tim 💬 so its more efficient to kill cannons first
106541 1:14:34 stromkarlen 💬 higher dps plus die faster
106581 1:14:36 stromkarlen 💬 gotcha
106795 1:14:45 iRk-Tim 💬 and then once cannons are dead you can also kite the zealots
106934 1:14:51 iRk-Tim 💬 hit and run
107039 1:14:55 stromkarlen 💬 ya
107313 1:15:07 iRk-Tim 💬 zeals on their own with no speed
107405 1:15:11 iRk-Tim 💬 ez to manage with hydra
107462 1:15:13 stromkarlen 💬 i was focusing zealot with like 2 and microing
107522 1:15:15 stromkarlen 💬 ya
107912 1:15:32 iRk-Tim 💬 so here
108066 1:15:38 iRk-Tim 💬 youd want basically these 6
108129 1:15:41 iRk-Tim 💬 outside forge
108193 1:15:44 iRk-Tim 💬 to hit the cannons
108347 1:15:50 iRk-Tim 💬 do shift click
108565 1:15:59 iRk-Tim 💬 like so
108644 1:16:03 iRk-Tim 💬 while in the meantime
108788 1:16:09 iRk-Tim 💬 the others you move up and then A move
108926 1:16:14 iRk-Tim 💬 so they can hit zeal
108945 1:16:15 iRk-Tim 💬 since
109054 1:16:20 iRk-Tim 💬 they cant get to the cannons
109208 1:16:26 iRk-Tim 💬 gate being a fat building
109289 1:16:30 iRk-Tim 💬 and zeals being in the way
109631 1:16:44 stromkarlen 💬 yes ok
109728 1:16:48 stromkarlen 💬 i follow
110318 1:17:13 iRk-Tim 💬 okay thats all i have to say about that
110363 1:17:15 iRk-Tim 💬 hmmm
110696 1:17:29 iRk-Tim 💬 i dont think theres any more information about the bust itself
110759 1:17:31 iRk-Tim 💬 that you need
110838 1:17:35 stromkarlen 💬 i think i just gained like 20iq
110915 1:17:38 stromkarlen 💬 yeah
110939 1:17:39 stromkarlen 💬 damn
110942 1:17:39 iRk-Tim 💬 ^^
111168 1:17:49 stromkarlen 💬 thats so much good info
111526 1:18:04 iRk-Tim 💬 awesome glad im helpful
111712 1:18:11 stromkarlen 💬 youre like
111894 1:18:19 stromkarlen 💬 one of the most helpful tbh
112127 1:18:29 stromkarlen 💬 i think
112187 1:18:31 iRk-Tim 💬 ive been told im good at this
112276 1:18:35 stromkarlen 💬 you think a bit like me
112326 1:18:37 stromkarlen 💬 too
112374 1:18:39 iRk-Tim 💬 but its reassuring to hear it still
112750 1:18:55 stromkarlen 💬 yeah you are
113097 1:19:10 stromkarlen 💬 its funny cause when you explain things
113379 1:19:21 stromkarlen 💬 i can hear myself explaining things in a similar style
113411 1:19:23 stromkarlen 💬 lmao
113646 1:19:33 iRk-Tim 💬 insert great minds quote here
113819 1:19:40 stromkarlen 💬 lolol
114115 1:19:52 stromkarlen 💬 just nice to have someone teaching like you think
114302 1:20:00 stromkarlen 💬 like when vivi tries to help me
114465 1:20:07 stromkarlen 💬 RRRRRR we're so different
114592 1:20:12 stromkarlen 💬 its just frustrating
114661 1:20:15 iRk-Tim 💬 hahaha vivi has quite a different view
114845 1:20:23 stromkarlen 💬 yeah
115034 1:20:31 stromkarlen 💬 which is fone
115102 1:20:34 stromkarlen 💬 fine
115269 1:20:41 stromkarlen 💬 my brain just doesn't work like that
115471 1:20:49 stromkarlen 💬 so its hard
116244 1:21:22 stromkarlen 💬 and babo is good but he
116320 1:21:25 stromkarlen 💬 goes on and on
116368 1:21:27 stromkarlen 💬 and on
116396 1:21:28 stromkarlen 💬 and on
116416 1:21:29 iRk-Tim 💬 lmao
116448 1:21:30 stromkarlen 💬 and sometimes
116573 1:21:36 stromkarlen 💬 doesnt even say that much
116641 1:21:38 iRk-Tim 💬 he loves to hear himself talk
116803 1:21:45 stromkarlen 💬 yes
117099 1:21:58 stromkarlen 💬 i think he just wants to be clear
117624 1:22:20 stromkarlen 💬 ok im hmm
117671 1:22:22 iRk-Tim 💬 nah i really just think he likes talking lmao
117841 1:22:29 iRk-Tim 💬 nothing more to it
117932 1:22:33 stromkarlen 💬 fair analysis
118506 1:22:57 iRk-Tim 💬 another thing to think about btw
118803 1:23:09 iRk-Tim 💬 beyond the mechanics of executing the bust
118968 1:23:16 iRk-Tim 💬 is when to decide to drone again
119145 1:23:24 stromkarlen 💬 was gonna ask about this
119243 1:23:28 stromkarlen 💬 if it doesnt work
119315 1:23:31 stromkarlen 💬 the follow up
119425 1:23:35 stromkarlen 💬 cause its a different build
119554 1:23:41 stromkarlen 💬 ish
119612 1:23:43 stromkarlen 💬 ynow
119659 1:23:45 iRk-Tim 💬 right
119774 1:23:50 stromkarlen 💬 yknow
119882 1:23:55 stromkarlen 💬 what is wrong with me
119990 1:23:59 iRk-Tim 💬 lol
120183 1:24:07 stromkarlen 💬 dont answer that
120320 1:24:13 iRk-Tim 💬 ;)
120375 1:24:15 stromkarlen 💬 not that you were gonna
120889 1:24:37 iRk-Tim 💬 so yeah
120942 1:24:39 iRk-Tim 💬 the followup
121377 1:24:57 iRk-Tim 💬 often times i think its gonna end up looking a lot like the lmaster build
121602 1:25:07 iRk-Tim 💬 where you go into just not having spire
121670 1:25:10 stromkarlen 💬 the lmaster build omg
121715 1:25:12 iRk-Tim 💬 or having a very late spire
121978 1:25:23 iRk-Tim 💬 and just mass hydra for a long time
122066 1:25:26 iRk-Tim 💬 with eventual lurkers
122276 1:25:35 iRk-Tim 💬 thats the most natural transition
122514 1:25:45 iRk-Tim 💬 because you can go into that at any point
122692 1:25:53 iRk-Tim 💬 and itll be the same deal
122924 1:26:02 stromkarlen 💬 yes
122976 1:26:04 stromkarlen 💬 i see
123002 1:26:06 iRk-Tim 💬 you CAN go for a fast lair in conjunction with 3hh
123216 1:26:15 iRk-Tim 💬 but that obv requires planning
123476 1:26:25 iRk-Tim 💬 you have to know what youre doing with that ahead of time
123601 1:26:31 stromkarlen 💬 damn, counts me out
123648 1:26:33 stromkarlen 💬 jkjk
123703 1:26:35 iRk-Tim 💬 haha
123913 1:26:44 iRk-Tim 💬 you can do things like
124049 1:26:50 iRk-Tim 💬 fast lair followed by
124091 1:26:51 iRk-Tim 💬 drop
124193 1:26:56 stromkarlen 💬 i rely on pure improv in life tim
124368 1:27:03 stromkarlen 💬 oh drop is fun
124841 1:27:23 iRk-Tim 💬 wouldnt be too good on this map
125041 1:27:31 iRk-Tim 💬 but like FS for instance
125185 1:27:37 iRk-Tim 💬 you dont even need speed
125221 1:27:39 iRk-Tim 💬 you just
125264 1:27:41 iRk-Tim 💬 get drop
125482 1:27:50 iRk-Tim 💬 sit outside with 24 or so hydra
125556 1:27:53 iRk-Tim 💬 so they build like
125608 1:27:55 iRk-Tim 💬 8 cannons
125779 1:28:02 iRk-Tim 💬 and then dont lose any trying to bust
125966 1:28:10 iRk-Tim 💬 just slow drop them in main
126257 1:28:22 iRk-Tim 💬 theyll have like maybe 5 zeals
126355 1:28:26 iRk-Tim 💬 no cannons in main
126406 1:28:29 stromkarlen 💬 i mean there have been slow drops on sylphid
126598 1:28:37 stromkarlen 💬 but anyhow
126685 1:28:40 stromkarlen 💬 target zealots?
126709 1:28:41 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah its just not quite as good because
126763 1:28:44 iRk-Tim 💬 more distance
126922 1:28:50 iRk-Tim 💬 when dropping
126970 1:28:52 iRk-Tim 💬 ?
127276 1:29:05 stromkarlen 💬 they should have more by the time you get drop
127326 1:29:07 stromkarlen 💬 than 5
127363 1:29:09 stromkarlen 💬 right?
127499 1:29:14 iRk-Tim 💬 mmm
127580 1:29:18 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah probably tbh
127670 1:29:22 stromkarlen 💬 yeah like
127714 1:29:23 iRk-Tim 💬 depends on what their plan is
127820 1:29:28 stromkarlen 💬 drop takes a while
127897 1:29:31 iRk-Tim 💬 true
127994 1:29:35 iRk-Tim 💬 i dont do it ever
128085 1:29:39 iRk-Tim 💬 or see it happen often
128214 1:29:44 stromkarlen 💬 are you making this up tim or do people do it to you
128241 1:29:46 stromkarlen 💬 haha
128381 1:29:52 iRk-Tim 💬 for the record sugo lost to it
128401 1:29:52 stromkarlen 💬 ah kk
128449 1:29:54 iRk-Tim 💬 in BSL
128490 1:29:56 iRk-Tim 💬 to nemu
128596 1:30:01 stromkarlen 💬 wait
128708 1:30:05 iRk-Tim 💬 or something similar
128717 1:30:06 stromkarlen 💬 damn
128784 1:30:08 stromkarlen 💬 i dont remember
128922 1:30:14 stromkarlen 💬 did he play nemu twice
128923 1:30:14 iRk-Tim 💬 it was on CB
129014 1:30:18 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah
129039 1:30:19 stromkarlen 💬 i watched these games
129090 1:30:21 stromkarlen 💬 ahh kk
129196 1:30:26 stromkarlen 💬 i saw the second series
129239 1:30:28 iRk-Tim 💬 think it was the first series
129376 1:30:33 stromkarlen 💬 i should watch more nemu cause like
129533 1:30:40 stromkarlen 💬 both games stand out vividly
129699 1:30:47 iRk-Tim 💬 he barely exists unfortunately
129732 1:30:48 stromkarlen 💬 one was 2gate into 2 more proxy
129923 1:30:56 iRk-Tim 💬 lol
129947 1:30:57 stromkarlen 💬 and he wrecked it with lings
130067 1:31:02 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah that was funny
130117 1:31:04 stromkarlen 💬 and the other was 6hatch no gas
130231 1:31:09 stromkarlen 💬 which was fascinating
130336 1:31:14 stromkarlen 💬 on eddy
130391 1:31:16 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah that one was good
130644 1:31:27 iRk-Tim 💬 thats a style thats really strange to deal with
130687 1:31:28 iRk-Tim 💬 as toss
130704 1:31:29 stromkarlen 💬 youd hate that build wouldnt you
130814 1:31:34 iRk-Tim 💬 yes i do
130816 1:31:34 stromkarlen 💬 ling lurker
130844 1:31:35 stromkarlen 💬 lmao
130938 1:31:39 iRk-Tim 💬 people do it sometimes
131125 1:31:47 iRk-Tim 💬 fortunately not often
131216 1:31:51 stromkarlen 💬 hahaha
131521 1:32:03 stromkarlen 💬 nemu barely exists?
131669 1:32:10 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah he played in BSL
131729 1:32:12 iRk-Tim 💬 and thats it
131838 1:32:17 stromkarlen 💬 ahhhhh
131872 1:32:18 iRk-Tim 💬 disappeared again
131887 1:32:19 stromkarlen 💬 i see
132236 1:32:33 iRk-Tim 💬 didnt participate in anything for years before that either
132437 1:32:42 iRk-Tim 💬 just like the occasional one off thing
132566 1:32:47 iRk-Tim 💬 not an active plaer
132630 1:32:50 iRk-Tim 💬 player
133185 1:33:13 stromkarlen 💬 ah kk
133241 1:33:16 stromkarlen 💬 thats a shame
133489 1:33:26 stromkarlen 💬 so
133855 1:33:41 stromkarlen 💬 ling all in?
134005 1:33:48 stromkarlen 💬 oh wait
134165 1:33:54 stromkarlen 💬 we were talking 3hh transition
134220 1:33:57 stromkarlen 💬 when to drone
134306 1:34:00 iRk-Tim 💬 right
134490 1:34:08 stromkarlen 💬 im good at topic sentences
134758 1:34:19 iRk-Tim 💬 so typically
134869 1:34:24 iRk-Tim 💬 when toss sees the den
134949 1:34:27 iRk-Tim 💬 for 3hh
135103 1:34:34 iRk-Tim 💬 theyll start with 4 cannons
135307 1:34:42 iRk-Tim 💬 thats the typical response
135713 1:34:59 iRk-Tim 💬 now theres plenty of ways toss can fuck this up
135867 1:35:06 iRk-Tim 💬 if they see the den early on
136042 1:35:13 iRk-Tim 💬 like right as it finishes or before
136293 1:35:24 iRk-Tim 💬 and then immediately puts down all 3 extra cannons
136481 1:35:32 stromkarlen 💬 dont build hydras
136499 1:35:32 iRk-Tim 💬 you can just build 0 hydras
136521 1:35:33 stromkarlen 💬 even?
136529 1:35:34 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah
136640 1:35:38 stromkarlen 💬 hell ya
136876 1:35:48 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah just drone and go for 5hh or 6hh
137001 1:35:54 stromkarlen 💬 i guessed
137056 1:35:56 iRk-Tim 💬 no spire since youre late on that ofc
137190 1:36:01 stromkarlen 💬 not worth
137273 1:36:05 iRk-Tim 💬 and youll have nice and fast hydra ups
137781 1:36:26 stromkarlen 💬 genius
137858 1:36:30 stromkarlen 💬 love it
137969 1:36:34 iRk-Tim 💬 another thing they might fuck up is building too late
138145 1:36:42 iRk-Tim 💬 ofc you punish that by just winning
138295 1:36:48 stromkarlen 💬 hahaha
138510 1:36:57 stromkarlen 💬 speaking from experience?
138567 1:36:59 iRk-Tim 💬 assuming they do it right tho
138619 1:37:01 iRk-Tim 💬 yes
138746 1:37:07 iRk-Tim 💬 assuming they do it right
139021 1:37:18 iRk-Tim 💬 and build cannons so they would finish when you get there
139512 1:37:39 stromkarlen 💬 yes
139587 1:37:42 iRk-Tim 💬 thats the point where you have to start deciding
139644 1:37:45 iRk-Tim 💬 what you wanna do
139799 1:37:51 stromkarlen 💬 damn
139859 1:37:54 stromkarlen 💬 decisions
139881 1:37:55 stromkarlen 💬 hide
139922 1:37:56 iRk-Tim 💬 based on the variables talked about
139956 1:37:58 iRk-Tim 💬 lol
140044 1:38:01 iRk-Tim 💬 so for instance
140077 1:38:03 stromkarlen 💬 yes
140198 1:38:08 iRk-Tim 💬 the shit cannons
140545 1:38:22 iRk-Tim 💬 youd likely decide here that you wanna keep on hydras
140808 1:38:33 iRk-Tim 💬 but then
140875 1:38:36 iRk-Tim 💬 what if
141134 1:38:47 iRk-Tim 💬 demo time again
141502 1:39:03 iRk-Tim 💬 so youve got your 6 hydra here
141715 1:39:12 iRk-Tim 💬 and more rallierd
141778 1:39:14 iRk-Tim 💬 rallied
141933 1:39:21 iRk-Tim 💬 you see 4 cannons
142011 1:39:24 iRk-Tim 💬 bad placement
142145 1:39:30 iRk-Tim 💬 youve got ovie there too
142194 1:39:32 iRk-Tim 💬 i hope
142253 1:39:34 iRk-Tim 💬 so you can see
142477 1:39:44 iRk-Tim 💬 and you see this
142575 1:39:48 iRk-Tim 💬 more cannons making
142864 1:40:00 iRk-Tim 💬 so you already have
142928 1:40:02 iRk-Tim 💬 these ones
142987 1:40:05 iRk-Tim 💬 on the way
143259 1:40:16 stromkarlen 💬 yes
143264 1:40:17 iRk-Tim 💬 and a couple more in production probably
143302 1:40:18 iRk-Tim 💬 but
143468 1:40:25 iRk-Tim 💬 theres a point where you just
143564 1:40:29 iRk-Tim 💬 have to call it quits
143700 1:40:35 iRk-Tim 💬 and give up on trying to bust
143971 1:40:46 iRk-Tim 💬 and you really want to make that call BEFORE you lose all the hydras
144008 1:40:48 iRk-Tim 💬 not after
144070 1:40:50 stromkarlen 💬 yes
144109 1:40:52 stromkarlen 💬 for sure
144780 1:41:20 iRk-Tim 💬 so if you see 7+ cannons, thats a number where you probably wanna call it off
144841 1:41:23 iRk-Tim 💬 i mean
145011 1:41:30 iRk-Tim 💬 its hard to discuss exact numbers tho
145045 1:41:31 iRk-Tim 💬 with this
145188 1:41:37 iRk-Tim 💬 every game will be different
145306 1:41:42 stromkarlen 💬 but if there are zealots too
145328 1:41:43 stromkarlen 💬 like
145386 1:41:46 iRk-Tim 💬 youll have to build a good understanding
145506 1:41:51 stromkarlen 💬 yeah
145548 1:41:53 stromkarlen 💬 i will
145671 1:41:58 iRk-Tim 💬 zealot count matters too yeah
145767 1:42:02 stromkarlen 💬 imma learn to hydra bust ^^
145855 1:42:05 stromkarlen 💬 dw
146486 1:42:32 iRk-Tim 💬 so here youd have like
146668 1:42:40 iRk-Tim 💬 probably some more on the way
146836 1:42:47 iRk-Tim 💬 before you decided that you cant bust
146936 1:42:51 iRk-Tim 💬 and you wanna drone
147126 1:42:59 iRk-Tim 💬 that leaves you with
147185 1:43:01 iRk-Tim 💬 like 20 hydra
147504 1:43:15 stromkarlen 💬 yes
147615 1:43:19 iRk-Tim 💬 now you should drone proportional
147706 1:43:23 iRk-Tim 💬 to the number of cannons
148111 1:43:40 iRk-Tim 💬 basically like for every cannons they make you can make 1 or 2 more drones
148354 1:43:50 stromkarlen 💬 makes sense
149047 1:44:19 stromkarlen 💬 and then
149058 1:44:20 iRk-Tim 💬 youll want to learn about all the potential toss followups too
149136 1:44:23 stromkarlen 💬 yes
149239 1:44:28 stromkarlen 💬 cause no spire
149268 1:44:29 iRk-Tim 💬 to figure out what theyre doing
149296 1:44:30 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah
149326 1:44:31 iRk-Tim 💬 so
149558 1:44:41 iRk-Tim 💬 ill run through options
149772 1:44:50 iRk-Tim 💬 first thing
149897 1:44:55 iRk-Tim 💬 usually if we see 3hh
149986 1:44:59 iRk-Tim 💬 we stop sairs
150098 1:45:04 iRk-Tim 💬 after 1
150144 1:45:06 iRk-Tim 💬 maybe 2
150198 1:45:08 iRk-Tim 💬 at most
150417 1:45:17 iRk-Tim 💬 almost nobody will build more than that
150458 1:45:19 iRk-Tim 💬 vs 3hh
150538 1:45:22 stromkarlen 💬 it doesnt bother you to type so much right? cause we can always voice if u
150572 1:45:24 stromkarlen 💬 prefer
150609 1:45:25 iRk-Tim 💬 you need that money for cannons
150682 1:45:28 stromkarlen 💬 Im fine with this
150751 1:45:31 stromkarlen 💬 but ye
150891 1:45:37 iRk-Tim 💬 hmmm im fine with either
151006 1:45:42 iRk-Tim 💬 whatever you wanna do
151045 1:45:43 stromkarlen 💬 kk we good then
151316 1:45:55 iRk-Tim 💬 gotta up my words per minute :p
151662 1:46:09 stromkarlen 💬 i think your wpm is better typing than talking
151691 1:46:11 stromkarlen 💬 ;)
151776 1:46:14 iRk-Tim 💬 lmao
151856 1:46:17 iRk-Tim 💬 might be true
152149 1:46:30 iRk-Tim 💬 i think too much when i talk
152175 1:46:31 iRk-Tim 💬 lol
152436 1:46:42 iRk-Tim 💬 i try too hard not to say anything dumb
152485 1:46:44 stromkarlen 💬 youre just quiet
152721 1:46:54 stromkarlen 💬 i just say dumb stuff
152900 1:47:01 stromkarlen 💬 ;)
153102 1:47:10 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah im quiet cuz i cant remove my filter on dumb shit
153140 1:47:11 iRk-Tim 💬 :p
153556 1:47:29 iRk-Tim 💬 anyway
153678 1:47:34 iRk-Tim 💬 followups
153725 1:47:36 iRk-Tim 💬 for toss
153734 1:47:36 stromkarlen 💬 yes
153916 1:47:44 stromkarlen 💬 sorry
154287 1:48:00 iRk-Tim 💬 usually itll be like 4 gates and lots of zealots with fast templar tech
154626 1:48:14 iRk-Tim 💬 basically like what youd see out of someone doing the 6:30 timing
154881 1:48:25 stromkarlen 💬 makes sense
154905 1:48:26 iRk-Tim 💬 just massing zeal
155095 1:48:33 iRk-Tim 💬 and getting storm ASAP
155177 1:48:37 iRk-Tim 💬 and probably 1 DT
155486 1:48:50 iRk-Tim 💬 another variant on that
155596 1:48:55 iRk-Tim 💬 that beast taught me
155748 1:49:01 iRk-Tim 💬 is to just cut gas entirely
155828 1:49:04 iRk-Tim 💬 get legs
155932 1:49:09 iRk-Tim 💬 delay templar tech
156002 1:49:12 iRk-Tim 💬 and get 6 gates
156066 1:49:14 iRk-Tim 💬 and mass zealot
156197 1:49:20 iRk-Tim 💬 and try to just run them over
156260 1:49:22 stromkarlen 💬 i hate it already
156287 1:49:24 iRk-Tim 💬 that ones scary
156350 1:49:26 iRk-Tim 💬 ^^
156607 1:49:37 iRk-Tim 💬 i won a CPL game vs 3hh with that
156720 1:49:42 iRk-Tim 💬 should be casted somewhere
156802 1:49:45 stromkarlen 💬 not surprised
156818 1:49:46 iRk-Tim 💬 me vs jamesuh
156914 1:49:50 stromkarlen 💬 i can imagine
157313 1:50:07 stromkarlen 💬 people tryin to bust you cause youre too good ;)
157469 1:50:13 iRk-Tim 💬 well
157511 1:50:15 iRk-Tim 💬 ironically
157596 1:50:19 stromkarlen 💬 not knowing that youre a canon architect
157621 1:50:20 iRk-Tim 💬 i lost the series to him
157644 1:50:21 iRk-Tim 💬 lol
157695 1:50:23 stromkarlen 💬 LOL
157763 1:50:26 stromkarlen 💬 nevermind
157877 1:50:30 stromkarlen 💬 ;)
157888 1:50:31 iRk-Tim 💬 hes very good
158100 1:50:40 stromkarlen 💬 how do you know though
158193 1:50:44 stromkarlen 💬 and how to stop
158407 1:50:53 iRk-Tim 💬 overlord
158615 1:51:01 stromkarlen 💬 wb sair?
158709 1:51:05 iRk-Tim 💬 when the bust is not gonna kill them
158771 1:51:08 stromkarlen 💬 cause therell be one
158838 1:51:11 iRk-Tim 💬 right
158869 1:51:12 iRk-Tim 💬 usually
158928 1:51:14 iRk-Tim 💬 there will be one
159212 1:51:26 iRk-Tim 💬 and you can opt to just sac an overlord
159262 1:51:29 iRk-Tim 💬 to get info
159441 1:51:36 stromkarlen 💬 yes
159474 1:51:37 stromkarlen 💬 for sure
159622 1:51:44 iRk-Tim 💬 the rest youll have to slowly escort home
159695 1:51:47 iRk-Tim 💬 which is a pain
159835 1:51:53 stromkarlen 💬 im just wondering if it gets inside before it dies
159856 1:51:53 stromkarlen 💬 haha
159948 1:51:57 stromkarlen 💬 i guess
160028 1:52:01 stromkarlen 💬 if its only one
160035 1:52:01 iRk-Tim 💬 ehhh shouldnt be that hard
160087 1:52:03 iRk-Tim 💬 cuz
160162 1:52:06 stromkarlen 💬 they can get a ways
160196 1:52:08 iRk-Tim 💬 wheres that sair gonna be
160307 1:52:12 stromkarlen 💬 true
160341 1:52:14 stromkarlen 💬 scouting
160382 1:52:16 iRk-Tim 💬 its more than likely gonna be in your base
160425 1:52:17 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah
160440 1:52:18 stromkarlen 💬 for drones
160626 1:52:26 iRk-Tim 💬 and looking for lair timing
160669 1:52:28 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah
160971 1:52:40 iRk-Tim 💬 so how to beat mass zeal counter push
161105 1:52:46 stromkarlen 💬 sunks
161176 1:52:49 stromkarlen 💬 yeah?
161226 1:52:51 iRk-Tim 💬 you wanna just retreat and get behind a good sim city
161502 1:53:03 iRk-Tim 💬 and yeah probably 1 sunk per base
161949 1:53:21 stromkarlen 💬 and you tell that by 6 gate and no templar tech
162082 1:53:27 iRk-Tim 💬 yes
162300 1:53:36 stromkarlen 💬 also are my sim cities terrible or are they ok?
162435 1:53:42 iRk-Tim 💬 theyre okay
162547 1:53:46 iRk-Tim 💬 some of them really good
162599 1:53:49 iRk-Tim 💬 some just okay
162806 1:53:57 stromkarlen 💬 fs ones kind meh huh
162812 1:53:58 iRk-Tim 💬 mostly all of them are passable tho
162870 1:54:00 stromkarlen 💬 damn
163102 1:54:10 stromkarlen 💬 I think im ironically
163196 1:54:14 stromkarlen 💬 better with the thirds
163263 1:54:17 stromkarlen 💬 than the nats
163301 1:54:18 stromkarlen 💬 lol
163311 1:54:19 iRk-Tim 💬 lol
163462 1:54:25 stromkarlen 💬 i usually screw up the nat
163703 1:54:35 stromkarlen 💬 good ok
163823 1:54:40 stromkarlen 💬 dont gotta worry about that
163853 1:54:41 iRk-Tim 💬 another thing they can do
163987 1:54:47 iRk-Tim 💬 is fast robo
164095 1:54:51 iRk-Tim 💬 as soon as they see den
164158 1:54:54 iRk-Tim 💬 and reaver
164367 1:55:03 iRk-Tim 💬 thats what sugo and seri like to do
164389 1:55:04 stromkarlen 💬 if they scout it eary?
164579 1:55:12 iRk-Tim 💬 idk if that really is a meta thing
164688 1:55:16 iRk-Tim 💬 or something really just they do
164890 1:55:25 iRk-Tim 💬 but its an option
165110 1:55:34 iRk-Tim 💬 and yeah works better with an early scout
165411 1:55:47 stromkarlen 💬 the reaver holds the bust partially?
165569 1:55:53 iRk-Tim 💬 on the tail end
165657 1:55:57 stromkarlen 💬 then u harass?
165727 1:56:00 iRk-Tim 💬 they would still need the 4 cannons
165798 1:56:03 stromkarlen 💬 ya
165945 1:56:09 iRk-Tim 💬 then they have reaver to hold the resdt
166126 1:56:17 iRk-Tim 💬 and then out of that
166271 1:56:23 iRk-Tim 💬 you can reaver drop
166350 1:56:26 stromkarlen 💬 ya
166410 1:56:29 iRk-Tim 💬 or just get 2 reavers
166498 1:56:32 iRk-Tim 💬 and skip storm
166666 1:56:39 iRk-Tim 💬 and do like a goon reaver zeal timing push
166754 1:56:43 iRk-Tim 💬 before lurker
166870 1:56:48 iRk-Tim 💬 or anything but hydra is out
167253 1:57:04 iRk-Tim 💬 thats the reason why sugo likes that fast reaver vs 3hh
167263 1:57:05 stromkarlen 💬 to stop that?
167340 1:57:08 stromkarlen 💬 micro micro?
167428 1:57:11 iRk-Tim 💬 strong followups
167454 1:57:13 iRk-Tim 💬 lol
167624 1:57:20 iRk-Tim 💬 meekro meekro yes
168019 1:57:36 iRk-Tim 💬 gotta try and split your units decently
168086 1:57:39 stromkarlen 💬 alright
168157 1:57:42 iRk-Tim 💬 if possible catch the shuttle
168292 1:57:48 stromkarlen 💬 yep
168329 1:57:49 stromkarlen 💬 logical
168579 1:58:00 iRk-Tim 💬 dont let yourself get all your units blocked into your nat
168976 1:58:16 stromkarlen 💬 yes
169000 1:58:18 iRk-Tim 💬 like if theyre pushing you back on FS for example
169129 1:58:23 stromkarlen 💬 hurt by your own wall
169196 1:58:26 stromkarlen 💬 yes i remember
169236 1:58:27 iRk-Tim 💬 dont send everything back behind nat wall
169278 1:58:29 stromkarlen 💬 i lost that game
169352 1:58:32 iRk-Tim 💬 send half towards 3rd
169452 1:58:36 iRk-Tim 💬 so you can flank
169459 1:58:37 stromkarlen 💬 to kingpis one base
169646 1:58:45 stromkarlen 💬 though that was goon
169806 1:58:51 stromkarlen 💬 but i was struggling with the wall
170025 1:59:01 stromkarlen 💬 makes sense
170067 1:59:02 stromkarlen 💬 gotcha
170482 1:59:20 iRk-Tim 💬 what else we got....
170783 1:59:32 iRk-Tim 💬 fast DT play of many varieties
170898 1:59:37 iRk-Tim 💬 exploiting late ovie speed
171316 1:59:55 stromkarlen 💬 actually i gotta say i was laughing when u were casting fathers dropships
171368 1:59:57 iRk-Tim 💬 make sure you have an ovie or 2 at each base
171530 2:00:04 iRk-Tim 💬 lol
171663 2:00:09 stromkarlen 💬 after talking about doing silly things with units yesterday haha
171798 2:00:15 iRk-Tim 💬 i did not understand that
171807 2:00:15 stromkarlen 💬 anyhow
171828 2:00:16 iRk-Tim 💬 at all
171966 2:00:22 iRk-Tim 💬 how the fuck do you build 10
172069 2:00:26 iRk-Tim 💬 and not use any of them
172488 2:00:44 stromkarlen 💬 overlords at bases gotcha
172616 2:00:49 stromkarlen 💬 i always forget to hp them
172690 2:00:52 stromkarlen 💬 but its good
172905 2:01:02 stromkarlen 💬 i thought it was funny
173113 2:01:10 stromkarlen 💬 especially cause you kept going back to it
173146 2:01:12 stromkarlen 💬 haha
173412 2:01:23 iRk-Tim 💬 haha
173719 2:01:36 stromkarlen 💬 can we practice storm dodge a couple of times?
173809 2:01:39 iRk-Tim 💬 sure
173856 2:01:41 stromkarlen 💬 muscle memory?
173987 2:01:47 stromkarlen 💬 ;)
174075 2:01:51 iRk-Tim 💬 the other option btw is to just
174096 2:01:52 stromkarlen 💬 other map save?
174165 2:01:54 stromkarlen 💬 oh ok
174175 2:01:55 iRk-Tim 💬 continue as normal
174201 2:01:56 stromkarlen 💬 go on
174461 2:02:07 iRk-Tim 💬 and go for 6 gate 3 base
174576 2:02:12 iRk-Tim 💬 or 8 gate 2 base
174626 2:02:14 stromkarlen 💬 ok yeah
174677 2:02:16 iRk-Tim 💬 just slightly later
174733 2:02:18 stromkarlen 💬 i know both of those
174817 2:02:22 iRk-Tim 💬 that doesn really change anything
174855 2:02:23 iRk-Tim 💬 other than
174952 2:02:27 iRk-Tim 💬 the clock is delayed
175367 2:02:45 iRk-Tim 💬 both of you get slowed down
175368 2:02:45 stromkarlen 💬 yeah
175412 2:02:47 stromkarlen 💬 i see
175451 2:02:48 iRk-Tim 💬 by the opening
175700 2:02:59 iRk-Tim 💬 hopefully if you drone at the right time
175845 2:03:05 iRk-Tim 💬 they got slowed down more
175916 2:03:08 stromkarlen 💬 and enough drones
175954 2:03:10 stromkarlen 💬 yes
175993 2:03:11 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah
176471 2:03:31 iRk-Tim 💬 yeah lets load the other map
176576 2:03:36 stromkarlen 💬 kk
176585 2:03:36 iRk-Tim 💬 brb tho 1 min
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